Turtles in msn names
The croc hunter's death surprised us all. Of course, everyone is sad about it and would rather wish that he was alive and kicking. However, feeling regretful of Irwin's death does not mean that people should thoughtlessly place turtles, snails, goats and other stupid msn emoticons next to their nicknames to 'show respect'.
First of all, 'showing respect' is moronic. Respect is something you either have for someone or you don't and you can't conjure it out of thin air by putting a freaking turtle in ur msn nickname. 'Showing respect' through a turtle is an idiosyncratic hyprocrisy concoted by some idiot and followed suit by countless unthinking people believing *omg that guy on tv died i should do something isnt that so sad?*. Why do you respect Irwin so much? He's a great character and everything, but do you know him? Does he know you? There's people dying every second, why don't you put a turtle for everyone of them? Or don't you respect them just coz they're not famous?
Secondly, apart from telling other people that you are emo/very very very caring/in a state of mourning (wearing black or a turtle badge?)/ blind sheep, what else do you hope to achieve? Would a turtle bring Irwin back? Does a turtle ease the grief of Irwin's family. Do you see Irwin's family going around on the media toting turtle/other animals emblems? No, they are mourning properly and for a proper reason; their family member has died. What are you doing joining something that is not you business, turning mourning for a dead person into a trivial msn game of seeing who is nicest person by seeing their amount of cyber 'respect' shown.
Thirdly, turtles are ugly. Why not try suns..or other emblems that are remotely related to Irwin's job. I don't think the Croc Hunter became famous from hunting down turtles.
So please, next time someone you don't know dies, quit the puerile stunts and stop fooling yourself, how much do you really respect them?
First of all, 'showing respect' is moronic. Respect is something you either have for someone or you don't and you can't conjure it out of thin air by putting a freaking turtle in ur msn nickname. 'Showing respect' through a turtle is an idiosyncratic hyprocrisy concoted by some idiot and followed suit by countless unthinking people believing *omg that guy on tv died i should do something isnt that so sad?*. Why do you respect Irwin so much? He's a great character and everything, but do you know him? Does he know you? There's people dying every second, why don't you put a turtle for everyone of them? Or don't you respect them just coz they're not famous?
Secondly, apart from telling other people that you are emo/very very very caring/in a state of mourning (wearing black or a turtle badge?)/ blind sheep, what else do you hope to achieve? Would a turtle bring Irwin back? Does a turtle ease the grief of Irwin's family. Do you see Irwin's family going around on the media toting turtle/other animals emblems? No, they are mourning properly and for a proper reason; their family member has died. What are you doing joining something that is not you business, turning mourning for a dead person into a trivial msn game of seeing who is nicest person by seeing their amount of cyber 'respect' shown.
Thirdly, turtles are ugly. Why not try suns..or other emblems that are remotely related to Irwin's job. I don't think the Croc Hunter became famous from hunting down turtles.
So please, next time someone you don't know dies, quit the puerile stunts and stop fooling yourself, how much do you really respect them?
posted by [sui generis] li mei at 11:56 pm
18 Comments:
Wat can i say Li.. I totally agree with u... Although Steve Irwin was an Australian icon n we should all be proud of the work he has done.. but the damn turtle emoticons does not give any significant meanin at all.. if the turtle was like a charity thing.. i could see y every1 is putting it in their nics. but it isnt.. so.. those who have put it in their nics have wasted their time.. >_<"
If so the people are really mourning his death Nancy, they actually seem quite happy. I do not believe that there are 18 people on my MSN list who care about others so much that they voluntarily mourn the death of a stranger. Perhaps if they were angelic at school, but since they are not, it would be irrefutable to say that at least the vast majority of them r 'turtalising' their names for the sake of following suit/not knowing anything better.
Lmao! I must say I enjoyed reading that blog entry...
Wow..you've got a lot to say about respect but I think people lost respect for him after the "Baby Bob Incident".
I hope it is fair to say that people are just feeling sympathetic and have "turtalised" their nicks to somehow remind us of his great deeds. Although I think a turtle is the wrong symbol to represent The Croc Hunter. Most people initially did not know why there was a turtle in people nicks.
I seriously doubt people are mourning over his death. As Li mentioned, no-one voluntarily mourns over a strangers death. I mean the only people who are are actually those who knew him. (ie) family and friends
You lied Li!! You do have to join to publish a comment...
sure, but he was an australian icon, even if he wasn't an icon in our eyes, he represented australia overseas.
i know we all don't love his tv show, but what he did for australia is irreplacable.
it's like charity. you can choose to support it or not. if you don't support it you can't diss it because you look like a fuckface. but if you do support it, you know that $2 more than what might be if you didn't support it.
on november 11, don't worry about taking a minutes silence. don't sing the national anthem. don't keep a straight face at a funeral. object at a wedding.
you don't need to respect anything you don't feel the need to, right?
First of all matt, irreplaceble is not the right word u vocab noob.
wat do you think respect is. something you tote like a second ego and say 'hey i respect this im kool. you dont have a turle in ur name, u dont respect ppl and so im kooler than u'.
thats so stupid. action speaks louder than ur whingings, and puttng turtles dont count as action. i dont see you donating extra money to charity. ill pay more tax than you eva will and hence my income will go towards helping more poor ppl than you can ever afford.
and ur face is more fucked than mine =P
see u in methods lmaoz
hello there li. i am very offended that u think i am putting a snail in my name to show non-existent respect to stupid steve irwin, who is a fkhead anyway. i am being a non conformist and not confoming into a steve irwin lover. gee. DOES NOBODY REMEMBER THE TIME WHEN HE DANGLED HIS BABY IN FRONT OF A CROCODILE. THIS IS KARMA COMING BACK TO GET HIM OK. i dont even see what the big deal is. everyones going to die someday. just because hes a famous loser. i never liked him anyway and i hope his son doesnt grow up saying crikey after every single sentence like his idiot of a father. on a happier note, VISIT MY BLOG. I FOUND THE AWESOMEST HELLO KITTY TOASTER. yes. dont laugh at me
btw anonymus anti jesus person is a loser
Well he was a good guy he donated shit loads of money to support the Australian zoo to help all those poor animals. What a great guy also even though i do graffiti and have no respect for public property some ppl might say but i got respect for this mofo
Li, half the people that have died have been reasons relating to drug abuse, and other un-magnanimous causes. Do such people deserve our respect? Yes and no. This is not the epoch to dwell on such matters of respect as clearly you’re inexorably vulnerable to such conflagration in the media. Intermittently, you’re a delirious sentient being who uses obscene language to describe the actions of your prominent friends such as matt f. Steve Irwin is a reverent, courteous, compassionate individual who does believe in tranquil, prosperous and harmonious world were all the animals can live in unity. As such, I am lead to believe, as are other with turtles at the beginning of their names, that he was a “good” man. So why not reward a respectful prominent public figure by placing mere turtles which do signify his undeniable love for creatures as a way of showing respect and sending condolences. What “man” can deny such an action?
AA =)
by the way, for all you feminists out there, by my last sentence in the previous publication, I was not only referring to men, but to the general humankind, as referred to by many precocious philosophers by the term “mankind”. As such I am in deep mourning for my regrettable actions that nor I nor any normal “man” can morally justify. May the world be blessed by the beauty of another soul like Steve Irwin.
AA =)
Indeed Mr. Adren, I can see that your bio jargon is getting to your head so much you are now using jargon for everyday life.
I never said i disrespected Irwin, I respect him like I respect everyone else. I can clearly see that Adren is not within this 'epoch' and his supeeeeeeriority totally overshadows my 'inexorable vulnerability' to 'media conflagaration', even though I see no fires within the media nor the sense in the inane phrase 'inexorably vulnerable'. I am quite sure Irwin is a 'curteous' individual, he must have offered your grandma a seat with a crickey. And I'd also love to live in a 'tranquil, prosperous and harmonious world were all the animals can live in unity'; I'm sure the animals would love some communism. Perhaps a Marxist Llama would fix the problem?
It is deeply regretable that I can't also be a 'precocious philosopher' like Adren
im not on either side.
turtlers, whatever makes you happy.
anti-turtlers, leave them alone.
Steve Irwin may have generated an Australian stereotype overseas which us Aussies don't like to be associated with, but he has presented himself as a selfless person who has a great passion for animals. In a world where we are so driven by academic achievement and finanical gain, there exists Steve Irwin who dares to live his passion and tell the world about it, can't we respect him for that? He has donated immense amounts of money to charities for wildlife preservation and research, can't we respect him for that? He always lived in the moment, a free spirit, a true blue Aussie, can't we respect him for that? Not many people are like him at all, and for that one can respect him on that basis.
Li argues that our respect for him came out of nowhere and was the aftermath of his untimely death. But have you not heard the saying that you never realise someone/thing's importance until they are gone? Furthermore, when a Polish Pope passed away a few years ago, the whole of Poland were grieving for their loss. They respected him, but Li, did every individual from Poland personally know the Pope? Exchanged words with him? The answer is a resounding NO, yet he was still respected and his passing away was enough to halt the nation. Sure, he was the Pope, God's representative on Earth, but he is in essence, on the same par as Steve Irwin, in the sense people who do not know him personally, can still have respect.
lmao Li. Why is it that you have to post wholly on the basis of criticising others? Respect can be shown in various ways, but it is wrong to say that any respect, whether turtle, flowers or even blog entries (unlike yours, they praise him, not criticise other people's actions to show respect). It matters not what you think of him. just because you believe he is a "fkhead" it does not mean the rest of the people on msn mirror your view. Such trivial matters should not even become blog entries, unless it is nothing but an attempt to create attention for yourself. If that's the case, i have nothing to say, but the point i'm trying to make is that you should respect other people's opinions, not challenge every person who contradicts your own belief. If people want to have turtles to show that they recognise an Australian icon has departed from this world, let them. It's not like they're forcing you to do the same, and even if they were, such a response is simply unnecessary.
Hey Li,
I wrote this huge thing before and I decided it made no sense so here's take two.
Two things Li: Respect and Expression.
People put symbols in their name to show respect. You said this is useless beause a turtle does not conjure respect. You're missing the point, having a symbol allows others to know that you care (mourning is a little exaggerated) about a man who died. Yes Li, some people do care that an Australian Icon has died. Caring about someone's death is not difficult, nor is respecting someone. What is so ridiculous about symbolising this respect?
Having that symbol shows people you care and respected this man, but you obviously have the wrong idea about what it achieves. Showing respect is the right thing to do. It is a simple social behaviour that makes us feel better and makes others feel better. It is human. If you had any sort of moral system you would know this. When you show your respect people will respect you.
You will also be the better for expressing your emotions. If you care for a person who died you don't want to keep it bottled up: you cry, you scream or you make a angry blog post. When it is a celebrity who you feel sorry for it can come in the form of a little symbol in your nickname. Something everyone can share together.
If you didn't care about this man then there is no need to tear others down for doing what they think is right. Doing something like this gains you no respect (its just a crazy "stunt," who's the hypocrite now?) and using big words makes you sound like pretentious snob (no offence).
I hope all the humans agree with me.
very true kelvin l. li you are a human being. you are suppose to show respect is that part of someone’s moral values. how can some person deny the fact that it is mandatory to show respect to whoever it is, as we are all humans we should all show each other respect, because if we were not "equal" (hence the reason for not showing respect) then why communicate with anyone. Think about it Li, a person died who did all he could to help wildlife, but seeing as you have a blog and do not care then what are you doing criticizing some man who is doing us a favour. If it were not for him numerous animals would have been extinct due to an increase in selecting agents (i.e. pollution and predation). Ask yourself, who in their right mind does not like to be respected in return? Im sure many of us do like to be respected, because i know i do.
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Have respect for those who trully admired and respected that croc hunter li.there is a reason behind those turtle emoticons. yes, its a way to symbolise peoples symphathy but li, you have to know that he saved endangered turtles in the wild, and nurtured them until they were healthy enough to be taken back and released into the wild. it's not fair on how you are judging or criticising these people for doing so.
Yes anonymous, and he was paid millions to do so. I don't want to get into an argument about the achievements of the corc hunter, as this is not the point.
However, if i must...
Irwin gets paid millions of dollars from his media contracts. Who wouldn't want to save turtles when getting publicity and revenue? Even if I hated turtles' guts, I'd go save their asses no matter what. And do you think crocodiles and snakes like being hugged by humans? Would you like being 'hugged' by crocodiles and snakes? These animals are scared of humans and want to get as far away from us possible. They do not want to be part of media stunts for the income of a tv show maker.
So next time you juxtapose Irwin with the Mother Teresa of animals, give it some thought.
Oh, need I mention the Baby Bob incident?
And stop posting under anonymous
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